Posted by stono on February 4, 2008 at 1:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)

As I recall, the day the Republican primary was held, the weather was rain & chilly. While the Demos' primary, weather was sunny and mild. It might have effected the turnout, don't you think?

Posted by msplacedinsc on February 4, 2008 at 8:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)

M O T S,

You are truely the idiot along with the idiot who's running the country! Unless you live under a huge bolder in your single wide the independants and dem's want a change. Come Nov 4th is the day change! Thank God cause it can't get worst for the common folks in america.

You and the 54 million who voted for the idiot, owe those of us who didn't vote for him an apoligy!

I'm waiting

Posted by blah_blah_blah on February 4, 2008 at 8:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Obama SMOKED McCain! Wait until November, when all of Edwards' votes go to Obama, (I know mine will.)

MOTS, desperation is a stinky, stinky cologne.

Obama/Edwards '08!

Posted by crankyyankee on February 4, 2008 at 9:28 a.m. (Suggest removal)

There are no Republicans running for President. Msplacedinsc you are in need of a reality check. You rail about how bad things are for the common folks yet every common person I know has a job, two cars, a two thousand square foot of living space and two Ipods. I'll bet the rest of the world wishes they had an idiot to lead their country to such wealth. You seem like a very unhappy person and I don't think a change of leadership will help you! Bless your heart.

Posted by BillytheKid on February 4, 2008 at 9:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)

"As I recall, the day the Republican primary was held, the weather was rain & chilly. While the Demos' primary, weather was sunny and mild. It might have effected the turnout, don't you think?"

I thought that was the outcome not the real weather.
GWB cured me of ever voting for any republican again, for that matter, I will look real hard at anyone that is in office now. It is time for some change.

Posted by msplacedinsc on February 4, 2008 at 9:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)

crankyyankee

I'm sorry you don't have another George "W" to vote for this time around. You must live in a single wide under a huge rock also and not watch the national networks or travel abroad and hear what the rest of the world say about your darling in the white house, cause if you think the rest of the world would want your buddy to run their country you are saddly mistaken. But again you voted for the idiot, didn't ya?

Obviously you don't know what "railing is about" cause all I typed was a statement! Take your barely high school education and focus on the real issues? Dumb people like yourself are deeply angry cause "W" sold you and the 54 mill the wrong goods 7 years ago? and you all bought it..hope you enjoyed it...

Say your sorry....

Posted by msplacedinsc on February 4, 2008 at 10:04 a.m. (Suggest removal)

tripsa...

You sound like poor white trash living out in scrub grass? I care what the rest of the world thinks cause we have borrowed billions of dollars from them to keep this country afloat! Hello...another well informed voter aren't you? You're a neo con as well, you think america is the greatest country in the world today? Please do all of us americans a favor and not have children and if you do.... please educate them and not the T.V. Can you do that?

Folks like yourself are afraid of folks like us who are educated, well off, and have a open mind. Fence Sitters and Demo's Unite to kick the Neo Cons to the curb!

Say goodbye to the NEOCONS in 2008...it was not a great time the last seven years and counting.....

Posted by msplacedinsc on February 4, 2008 at 10:07 a.m. (Suggest removal)

tripsa

you owe me and the 46 million a sorry for your brain fart in 00' and 04'

come on now, you can do it????

Posted by blah_blah_blah on February 4, 2008 at 10:33 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Taxes pay for ALL your services; fire, police, road work, schools, war, etc. Why is that such a bad thing? If you don't want to pay taxes then don't expect firefighters to respond to your burning house.
What is wrong with everyone having health care? Why do you hate for Americans to be healthy? Not everyone who doesn't have healthcare is a lazy, do nothing. I just graduated with a Masters in Teaching, and I can't afford health care, because D.C. let the pharmaceutical companies decide the price.
You have forgotten the lesson we learned on 9-11. We are all Americans first and foremost, and that is most important. So stop with YOUR hate speech on your fellow Americans.

Posted by blah_blah_blah on February 4, 2008 at 10:54 a.m. (Suggest removal)

archdude,
right on! i didn't know that, and I have some friends in Super Tuesday states that wanted to vote for him, I shall pass on the good word. You are also, so right about Hillary and Obama taking his platform, if he can't be president, I hope he is in the mix somewhere.
Thanks for the info.

Posted by msplacedinsc on February 4, 2008 at 11:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Tripsa, I'm glad your afraid of not me but millions of us well off, educated liberals who care about America. The republicans are pathetic, you don't want to help other Americans, I wonder who many neo-cons lost their home to Katrina but asked our government for a handout? The "Elephants" motto is everybody take care of themselves and not ask the government for anything only the rich and large corporations. Save your breath. The word for you and your party is hypocrites. If you don't have a dictionary in your trailor may I suggest dictionary.com.

By the way Leave it to Beaver comes on in an hour, remember those days?? They are long over with, todays program called "8 years is enough for a Neo-con"

Posted by Early on February 4, 2008 at 11:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I guess I'm a neo con, because I'm sick and tired of paying for other peoples basic necessities, homes, food, health care. Taxes were meant for the police, roads, and fireman and they deserve better but wait,,, I can't help them because I'm paying for citizen lazy's basics.
BS, I say. When you take from others to give to others who are capable, your a Democrat

Posted by blah_blah_blah on February 4, 2008 at 12:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)

tripsa,
how dare you speak about the city of New Orleans with such ignorant hatred! A major U.S. city was completely wiped off the map, and you dare make it political?! Katrina had nothing to do with Dem/Rep. but the failed response was due to both parties. How dare you criticize someone who lost their home and all their possessions, were forced to the Superdome without adequate sleeping arrangements, medical personnel, etc. How dare you chastise them for looking for a little help. They lost everything! Not because they were Democrats. You complete lack of compassion for your fellow man is truly frightening. You guys can banter on, with Dems suck this, Repubs suck that, but don't you dare fault the people of New Orleans, because you think they are all Democrats! Unbelievable!

Posted by mosinfan on February 4, 2008 at 12:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Tripsa is all over it...100% correct. Katrina hit a city made up primarily of people that were trained to suckle at the .gov teat.

Posted by Early on February 4, 2008 at 12:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

To the people, victims of Katrina, next time someone warns you a hurricane is coming,,,,,get the F out, your below sea level folks. I still remember seeing the news and the MAJORITY of the folks from New Orleans just laughing and carrying on, we ain't going no where. And then the complete and idiotic failure of trying to please the people down there afterward. Gee, I sure don't remember all those trailers and stuff coming to Charleston after Hugo or Florida after Andrews. What was the difference???????????

Posted by mosinfan on February 4, 2008 at 12:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

As a matter of fact...I went through Hugo here in Charleston and the next morning I was outside cleaning up my own mess and helping my neighbors do the same. We worked to drag a downed tree off of my home and others around us. We shared food and drink.

I dont recall seeing anyone stick their face into a microphone and camera and scream about how the nanny state and federal governement was not sending in the cavalry to help provide them a new home or whatever else they needed in the immediate aftermath.

Of course there were exceptions to this... i.e. The lead .gov teat himself...the Honorable Fritz Hollings.

Posted by captivated on February 4, 2008 at 12:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Such animosity and name-calling on a Monday morning is ridiculous! You guys need to turn off the putor and go outside for some fresh air and exercise so you can dance like your future president! GOBAMAGOBAMAGO!!!

Posted by theronce on February 4, 2008 at 1 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Now, msplacedinsc, you have commented twice about other's low level of education as compared to yours. But, I love it, you erred at least once yourself begging for an apology from crankyankee.

It should be, "Say 'you're' (not your) sorry," above. Aside from your rudeness and pretentiousness, you cannot seem to find your way home, since you are still misplaced. Try I-26 to I-77.

Posted by blah_blah_blah on February 4, 2008 at 1:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I didn't mean for this to turn into a Katrina discussion. That was just heartbreaking and embarrasing for us as a whole. A major US city turned into a 3rd world country. So much negativity and hatred for fellow Americans. Since when as helping out been frowned upon. Remember, Jesus said, I was thristy and you didn't give me water, Hungry and you didn't feed me, tired and you didn't give me a place to rest my head.
What you have done for your fellow man, you have done to me.

Vote John Edwards!

Posted by mosinfan on February 4, 2008 at 1:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

blah_blah_blah,

Good points about what Jesus said, but here is the rest of scripture that provides the "rest of the story" and the balance required to treat people in a Godly manner...

2 Thessalonians 3:10

"For even when we were with you, we used to give you this order: if anyone is not willing to work, then he is not to eat, either."

Posted by Early on February 4, 2008 at 1:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I believe the bible says help those who help themselves.
I know it also says to help your fellow man which is something I live for, anytime someone is down on their luck, I offer a helping hand. my point is the people who won't help themselves is greater than the people needing a helping hand. I for one don't have the capital to keep supporting those folks nor do I think my children or grandchildren will. We need a SHARP reform and nobody is using that on their platform, only more to those who don't help themselves.

Posted by Early on February 4, 2008 at 1:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Been to the Social Security office lately?
What do YOU see?

Posted by Early on February 4, 2008 at 1:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Do you see what people buy with their foods stamps, they use them like cash, not what they were intended to do.

Posted by msplacedinsc on February 4, 2008 at 1:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

theronce,

I-26 takes me to my house on FB and back home in the upstate. Thanks for the direction. Us free think liberals will continue to come to your "good-ole-boy" state and change the overall political landscape that you can bet on. Nothing is better than to anger a neo-con about your hypocritical ways.

Posted by blah_blah_blah on February 4, 2008 at 2:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

archdude
thanks for helping elaborate.

tripsa, MOTS, mosinfan, Early
I agree with you about abusing the system. No one, Dem or Repub agrees that abuse of the system is right. Look after 9-11, our government worked together and handled the horrific tragedy well. Look after 8-29, ALL levels of government failed, and yes tripsa, Chaos.

I spent the month of March 2006, working ALONGSIDE the residents of both Lower and Upper 9th Wards. They weren't looking for someone to do it for them, they were looking for help. I had to throw out photo albums, kids toys, etc. I heard the stories, firsthand. I helped out because they were fellow Americans, not because they were black, white, rich, poor, on welfare, off welfare, Dem, or Repub. I didn't care. It is just disheartening to blame the citizens for the shortcomings of the government. You wouldn't politicize 9-11, don't politicize 8-29. If helping your fellow Americans is wrong, I don't want to be right! But seriously, I understand all points of this discussions, NOLA hits a little closer to home. Have a great day and vote for who you want to, I won't criticize.

Posted by Early on February 4, 2008 at 2:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

archdude and blah,
I feel the same and will not post it again, I will gladly help those who help themselves but, I think the majority is bankrupting a system and they are capable.
Blah, I hear you but,, I don't hear any candidates preaching welfare, SS or any other reform because they don't have the balls too, they will loose the mighty VOTE. Too many people voting for someone who promises them ( individually) a prize which is the same ole politics. Can't think of many presidents that actually came through with their promise.

Posted by MotoryachtSoCo on February 4, 2008 at 2:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I wish I could take back my vote for Bush in 2004.

Posted by To_live_and_die_in_Dixie on February 4, 2008 at 2:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Yes, everyone should get help when they need it, on a TEMPORARY basis (unless they are totally disabled and will never be able to provide for themselves). I think most people are just sick and tired of supporting so many worthless, lazy people who do not want to work or who keep procreating just to get more welfare. I know I'm sick of it!

The democrats seem to want to make most of the country dependent on the government through one program or another. All that does is promote poverty and crime. Generally, people who receive government subsistence never increase their personal worth and do not become productive members of society. They just continue to suck the blood of the taxpayer and create new generations of bloodsuckers who usually become druggies, violent criminals, etc. There may be a few exceptions to the rule, but that is not usually the case.

Overall most normal people want to help others who are TRULY in need, but to continue giving and giving to people who just keep taking and taking is like pouring dirt into a bottomless pit. This country needs someone who will plug up the hole. Like several of you said above, God helps those who help themselves--it should be the same with the government!

Posted by Early on February 4, 2008 at 2:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

posted by ardude "If you create an extreme disparity you will get a society so violent that no one would want to live in it."
Been to North Charleston or the mall lately?

Posted by msplacedinsc on February 4, 2008 at 3:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Motoryachtsoco, Thank you for the courage to type that comment, Early, your second to last blog is sooo correct and lastly Stand2828, you hit the nail on the head......

Posted by theronce on February 4, 2008 at 3:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

msplacdinsc, typical...misdirect...attack...solve nothing...getting angry about you is about as worthwhile as getting angry over the weather...keep thinking...do nothing.

Posted by blah_blah_blah on February 4, 2008 at 4:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

TP
heaven forbid that some of the people posting here actually work the evening shift (waiters, bartenders, clerks, etc.) don't be so quick to judge and criticize.

Posted by msplacedinsc on February 4, 2008 at 4:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

theronce

I don't care if you get get angry with me, it won't change one thing about myself, my life or how I live and treat others. You need to vent your anger towards those you voted for in DC? They let you down? Don't be a typical neo-con and help out somebody less fortunate than yourself. Hundreds of things you can do and hopefully you'll feel better about yourself? Hopefully?........
By the help speaking about "talking and do nothing"? My wife and I could have used your hands to help us out with the unfortunate folks of New Orleans three weeks after Katrina. Two weeks of passing out medicine and water? You were probably too busy with golf those weeks?

Posted by SCdeacinNYC on February 4, 2008 at 4:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

to TP:

"Oh, People can come up with statistics to prove anything, 14% of people know that"

Thank you Homer Simpson.

Posted by JohnS on February 4, 2008 at 5:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The Obama group was giving out free watermelons with a proof of voting sticker. A group of Mexicans were handing them out from a big truck at the Food Lion King Street downtown parking lot. This could have influenced some voters.

Posted by blah_blah_blah on February 4, 2008 at 5:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"Judge not, lest ye be judged". That is in reference to hypocritical judging. Christians ARE called to judge things in this world over and over again in Scripture.

Hypocritical judging is calling someone a sinner, when YOU sin, too.

Hypocritical judging is telling someone they are wrong, when YOU do wrong, too.

Hypocritical judging is saying that we Christians are the ones responsible to judge others.

Kind of hard to misinterpret that, Mr. Stone Thrower.

Posted by blah_blah_blah on February 4, 2008 at 5:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

JohnS,
I didn't hear about that. That is really nice and considerate of them, I think I will stop by and grab one. Thanks again, and since Edwards has "stepped aside" I will reconsider Obama.

Posted by blah_blah_blah on February 4, 2008 at 7:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

MOTS
I am a Christian, too, friend. Please don't preach to me. One post you say, Christians are called to judge. Then the other post you say, God is the judge. I agree that Christians aren't perfect, they are forgiven. But as your last post suggests, and I agree with, let's let God do all the judging, and let US worry about how WE can live a life for Him, not what OTHERS are doing.
Please take some time to look at these websites:
http://www.sojo.net/
Or this one:
http://www.republicansforobama.org/

Posted by blah_blah_blah on February 4, 2008 at 7:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

You mean, in Illinois, you are allowed to starve a baby to death?

Posted by blah_blah_blah on February 4, 2008 at 7:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

archdude,
your post leaves me with a good chance to exit. I look forward to the Edwards email.

everyone else,
thanks for your interpretations and banter. you are free to think as you wish, please let others do the same. Remember we are all Christians first, then Americans, then Dems/Repubs.

Posted by blah_blah_blah on February 4, 2008 at 7:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I will leave you with this quote a wise man once told me;

"Either we are equal or we are not. Good people ought to be armed where they will, with wits and guns and the truth. NRA go to He the ignorant censor."

whatever that means.

Posted by Hope1971 on February 4, 2008 at 8:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The nature of some of the comments in this discussion show why a figure like Barack Obama is so important. He offers, indeed embodies, a message that goes beyond the tired and angry politics of the past, the politics of rage and race that have deeply scarred South Carolina history. I hope that the massive turn out means that the African American vote will be a continuing factor in our political history. Our state has too many ghosts and its time to lay them to rest, time for a change.

Posted by AFWally on February 4, 2008 at 8:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Such horsecrap.....watch the great changes that take place in America regardless of who gets elected, more of the same....not going by the Constitution, more taxes, bigger Gov't, more crime, more economical problems, continued invasion by illegals and continued dependency on the ahabs for oil. Our grand kids will get to pay for the rape of America for decades. Hey at least "we the people" no longer need any vaseline for our screwin'

Posted by kunzea on February 5, 2008 at 4 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Other than voting for Carter in '76, I have voted Republican since first voting in '72. My vote for Obama was a vote against Hillary. I will vote Republican in the general election. I would not necessarily interpret the vote as Mr. Behre did.